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CyberianGinseng wrote: I really don't see how people can argue that yin or yang couldn't be added to an element to alter its properties and produce an entirely different element.

Look at what yin and yang do. Shikamaru uses yin to turn an ordinary shadow into something that can control your body or gain physical substance and choke you to death or slam you into the ground. The properties of the shadow have been totally altered from a mere absence of light to a tangible substance.

Trying to say that if yin were added to fire, you'd only end up with more fire doesn't make any sense. If yin can do that to a shadow which is not even a thing in and of itself, who in hell knows what it can do to fire or anything else? And how in hell wouldn't you call the resultant entity an entirely different element?

Say I used yin release added with fire release and created a fire that only caused an unbreakable genjutsu that tormented anyone who stepped into it with their worse fears, sins, and nightmares, like the Ghost Rider's Hellfire. This flame essentially only burns your soul for lack of a better description. So it doesn't burn wood or oil or anything else. It only burns people and then only spiritually. Explain to me how that's not an entirely different element than fire? It's far more different from fire than fire is from Enton!

By the way, Shikamaru uses his spiritual energy to manipulate the shadow. It's not like it's an actual nature transformation; he doesn't transform his chakra into something else. He just decides how much spiritual energy to use over the amount of physical energy.