Thread:Sainami/@comment-2089817-20140427002712/@comment-2089817-20140430203633

Wow, I've really opened up a can of worms here, huh. Let's see...

Kay. The only reason I'm so aggressive about this matter is because thanks to you and the others Admins' efforts, NF had finally entered a stabilized era of its history. Respectable users working here seriously, actual content being written, and people coming together as a community. But slowly, it's starting to take a downward spiral, and in my attempt to offer a suggestion to somehow correct the problems, I felt as though you were totally blowing me off. Perhaps now that was my just interpretation. At any rate, I do wish to have a serious conversation with you about the matter at some point soon, and also with the other Admins, to discuss the matter at length.

Berserk and Ginseng. I appreciate you both coming forth with your honest opinions.

Simbah. While I could question why you are responding to something I'm directly speaking to Kay about, the fact of the matter is, this is a site where users all have an equal right to speak. So I will respond to you openly and directly. I really don't know where you're getting that or who has been feeding you that load of crap, but you clearly need a look at reality. I often case myself off as the "bad guy" of this site, especially as an Admin, and once I started to understand that I had lost touch with the userbase, I removed my Admin powers myself and respectfully bowed out from the Administration. So no, I definitely do not think of myself, and I'm positive Ten also does not, as "the gods and the Naruto Fanon has an absolute love of you." I'll tell you something about Dream. You called Berserk a sheep, right? That's what Dream was. A sheep of the Njalm regime in the past. You stated, "IllusiveDream even made a blog and said that your characters were nothing more than Goku and Vegeta's." If this is true, then Dream is even more pathetic that I once thought. It's one thing to bash a person's work straight to them, but another thing entirely to turn a community against them. But that's another matter entirely.

If users fear me, that's their own fault. Unlike other Admins in the past, I've taken many steps to openly give people a chance to speak to me honestly without repercussion. I even made a BLOG during my time in the administration that asked people to OPENLY BASH ME and get whatever negative feelings they had about me off their shoulders. This was the first, if not the only time, any Admin had ever done something like that on NF. Despite claiming to have done the research, you apparently haven't taken all matters into consideration.

If you want to bash my character, or somebody else wants to, they can do it on my message wall. I'll speak to them and hopefully try to salvage their opinion of the character. But THIS is a message wall about the application process issues, NOT my characters. But even so, I will say one thing. Seireitou's article has been through so many changes, it probably outnumbers the amount of characters some users on NF have created. Time was spent making Seireitou into a character that follows Kishi's laws as set into his universe while have significantly unique flairs. This is a far cry away from copied wikipedia buddhist ideas that generate techniques nowhere NEAR supported by the manga. Even my ideas that go a little beyond what Kishi has explained, STILL uses actual Naruto facts to base my theories on. I take offense that you'd even compare the two situations. Furthermore, iff users see Seireitou and Ryun as the "Goku and Vegeta" of this site, that's tough. Because more work has gone into them over the years than any other article on this site, and much more time and thought, much more heart and soul, spanning nearly six years in entirety. During which time, they have participated in several personal stories and roleplays, probably more than any other character as well. These experiences have molded their articles into what they are today. They have earned their current power standing, which is more than I can say for certain others. But that's beside the point.

You better believe that if somebody is doing something ridiculous on here, I am going to speak up. Using the argument that I make mistakes, so I shouldn't point out another person's mistakes, is honestly the most ridiculous steaming pile of shit I've heard out of you. Users think I've make an error in judgment or a mistake in content, they are more than welcome to point it out. It helps me grow as an author. But just because users don't do that to me openly, for fear or whatever, does not mean I'm going to shy away and let bullshit reign freely on the site without putting my foot down. This site is as much yours as it is mine as it is any other user's. I have as much right to say what I want about their articles as they do about mine, and that's the end of it.

"But once it became known that Buddhism and I ching were Naruto's foundation, users started to use their own personal views as a guiding system for everyone."

Why? Because Njalm, Chrono, and Void said it was? Look, they may be intelligent and all, but they are hardly the authority on how to interpret Naruto. In fact, a lot of the stuff they idealized has absolutely nothing to do with what Kishi has presented in Naruto. In fact, I can even quote several times where Njalm himself stated he disregarded certain aspects in the Naruto manga because he, quote, "didn't like it". Is that a credible foundation for you to use? God, I hope not. NF, above all else, should only use what Kishi has revealed as a basis, and span off from there. Not listen to crackpot theories and consider them fact. You want to draw upon chinese concepts and buddhist concepts in your work? That's fantastic. All the more power to you. But do so in a way that makes sense with Kishi's universe, not Njalm's universe. Otherwise, you aren't even writing Naruto anymore. You might as well make your own site about your own ninja series.

Applications are strict because there are too many of them and too little Admins in charge of them. THAT is why I've been proposing a new system to replace the policy and will still accomplish the same ends. I'll ask you to actually read what I've written before criticizing my words. And I'm not picking on Kay. Don't you dare try to make me look sexist. She is just the only Admin currently that I have spoken to in the past and I believed I could personally speak with about this issue before bringing it to the other Admins' attention. Also. In case you hadn't noticed, I said, and I quote, if something had actually been discussed in that meeting productively, then something would've been put INTO EFFECT to START some kind of change. I didn't say change would just happen automatically. Do not put words in my mouth.

I hope this answers everything you mentioned. If you want to discuss this further, then do it on my message wall and we can chat just the two of this. This message wall is about the issues spanning from the application policies, not you and the wiki's personal beef with me and Ten.