Thread:Kazeyo/@comment-4961229-20130919022707

It's very simple. There are only five basic elements. That's canon. Go read chapters 315/316 and tell me that I'm lying. ANYTHING ELSE is some sort of advanced element or if you add anime considerations something else entirely. However, anime ain't canon. There's no way around it. What you did is actually more egregious (by your logic) than anything I've thought up. You created two more basic elements which by all current laws of canon DO NOT EXIST. I originally made an extrapolation from known laws that elements would continue to combine in natural ways at new (though not necessarily stronger) levels creating new elements. What I have now is what I arrived at due to your objections. Even now it is only as far out as the anime, which is also what you've done here or the literally dozens of Gelel based pages currently on this wiki that are somehow still ok.

Let me give you another example. Canon says absolutely NOTHING about combining yin and yang with elements to create advanced elements.

Kakashi explicitly states that the five basic elements form the basis of all ninjutsu. Advanced elements are simply combinations of these same five elements. He and Yamato exclude yin and yang from these considerations. The only indication yin and yang enter into the picture is from chapters stemming from the current war, most notably those about yin/yang release creating what was assumed to be a "new element" that negates ninjutsu. This was presented as speculation of a character after another character speculated it was simply 4 or more elements. Fanon advanced elements are speculations that yin and yang can combine with these five elements in order to extend the advanced spectrum. If we were to stay manga canon, we have to stay with the five elements or use Onmyoton (not merely yin or yang + element) to rearrange elements to our liking.

What you've done here is what the anime does. They create other energies/chakra (Gelel) besides canon chakra and combine them with canon chakra to create new types of chakra. You created a new type of basic elemental chakra. Can you combine basic elemental chakras into fanon advanced elemental chakras and agree with manga canon? Yes. Can you create a new types of basic elemental chakras and stay with manga canon? Hell no. You're clearly off into anime movie land.

Your bias plus recent changes to this site indicates to me that this site is far along into the realm of admins do as they please on this wiki, while others are held to a stricter standard.

But it's not like I can stop you so... whatever. That's about all I have to say.--CyberianGinseng 02:27, September 19, 2013 (UTC) 