Talk:Joshin

Heavy Sword Style

 * The Heavy sword style was created by Joshin in a plan to combine two elements of Kenjutsu that usually can't be combined which is Speed and Strength.

I hope you realize that this is, literally, every sword style in existence. There is absolutely no such rule anywhere that states speed and strength are two isolated elements in swordsmanship and are not normally combined. The very idea of it is ridiculous. I don't know where you're getting that information from, whether it is inspiration from another manga series or something derived from your own thoughts, but it is completely illogical. And I mean, completely illogical, even by anime/manga standards, because it doesn't make sense. I'll break it down.


 * Usually in Kenjutsu, you can have the strength portion and deal large amounts of damage, but not have the speed to do so. With speed you can have very fast accurate strikes, but don't deal enough damage.

First, the physics behind this doesn't make a lick of sense. Force is derived from mass times acceleration. "Strength", in other words, is just like saying the "weight" that an attack carries. Therefore, if an attack is strong enough to deal damage, it suffices to say that it is moving at a sufficient speed necessary to enact force. When you swing a weapon, it is basic logic that the faster you swing it, the more force will be carried when it finally hits something. Even if you were basing this sword style from hand-to-hand martial arts, you still translated it wrong. Even a fist, when thrust out at a faster speed, will carry more strength than a slow punch. It's just simple classical mechanics.


 * It takes a lot of physical training, but since Joshin was already strong he achieved this style effortlessly. With Heavy Sword Style, the receiver of the attacks are crushed and sliced, which makes blocking the sword style futile. With simple movements of the wrist the fatigue on Joshin using this style is reduced which is why he can keep the sword style up for long periods of time.

This is literally every sword style, just like I said before. Like, this is the most basic idea behind using any weapon. Every sword style requires an individual to build up strength, because they are wielding a, more than likely, metal weapon. The receiver of a sword attack will undoubtedly become "crushed" or "sliced" because they are literally being hit by a metal blade, no matter what sword style you utilize. If I sound aggressive about this, it's because, if there was anything in this world that I could call myself an expert on, it is undoubtedly martial arts, which would include swordsmanship. It's like a personal pet peeve of mine when people try to come up with brand new styles, slapping on a new name and everything, without any information or research to back up why that style is so unique and special enough to be given a brand new name.

I can't force you to remove it or change it or whatever, but at the very least, I can advise you to consider giving the "Heavy Sword Style" some more unique thought other than a "fast and strong sword style that crushes whatever it hits" — which is, again, literally every sword style. All martial arts utilize speed, accuracy, power, and technique. What makes them different is how they are used and how those factors come about. There can be sword styles focused upon protecting the space within the maai, ones that are focused exclusively on offensive assault without relying on defense, a style that deals with one-handed strikes only, or rather specializes entirely on two-handed strikes, uses the friction generated from intense speeds to ignite the blade with flames (assuming they have a proper weapon to do so), a style that deals with concussive impact rather than clean slices... and so on and so on. These are examples of sword styles with differences between one another, but if you notice, they all possess the same factors that this "Heavy Sword Style" of yours has, because those factors that you deem unique are commonplace for all forms of weapons combat. So, take what I say as you will. --Silver-Haired Seireitou (Dosvidaniya, tovarisch.) 00:24, July 5, 2014 (UTC)